12v Dilemma

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        B.W.
        Yesterday, I started our job of replacing our RV Fridge with a Residential Fridge. On our XTRM5 the propane line comes up from the bottom into rear of fridge cabinet. It tee’s off with a line going to the stove and one to the fridge. I capped off the one going to the fridge. When I had everything ready to slide the unit out, I unplugged the 110v and disconnected the positive & ground 12v wires. I inadvertently let the positive 12v wire come in contact with the copper propane line getting an ever so light arc. At that instant I figured I’d probably blown a 12v fuse somewhere but continued on with removing the unit. Late yesterday, I noticed that the light on bottom of upper kitchen cabinet that contains the microwave would not come on. Further investigation revealed the light over the desk slideout wouldn’t come on either. This morning I checked all the 12v fuses in the outside compartment and all appear to be fine. I even replaced the fuse labeled “Refrigerator/Furnace” just to be sure. Still no lights. There are 3 bulbs in the desk light and one LED light in the kitchen cabinet light so I assumed it practically impossible for all bulbs to go out at the same time, but I checked them anyway and the bulbs are ok. I cut the positive & ground wires off so the connectors with short length of wires could go with the unit for whoever buys it. That left a short length of wires dangling in the fridge cabinet. I’ve run out of troubleshooting ideas. Is it possible that the positive and negative wires remaining have to be connected to something to complete the circuit???
        Any & all help appreciated.
        B.W.

        Posted: 4:25 PM – Nov 03, 2013
        JohnD222
        BW,

        It is very unlikely that both lines into the frig were 12 volt +; much, much more likely that one is 12 volt + and the other one is 12 volt -. Your scenario would only be possible IF there was a third wire connected to the frig that was 12 volt -.

        Regarding the other lights being out but the 12volt fuses appearing good:.
        Yes, usually the slightest arc will blow a fuse, but they may not look blown. If you do not have the correct amp spare fuse, try swapping a known good fuse with same amps.

        Try testing the old lines to the frig- I suspect that they are still dead too, and, if the fuse you looked at really is good, that there is an in-line fuse or circuit breaker that has tripped. If you don’t have a test light you can use one of your 12 volt light bulbs, or the fan that is in the refrigerator compartment to briefly test to see if there is power in the old frig lines. If the fan, you need to bypass the temperature sensor. If these lines are both 12v+ the test light will cause your other lights to work, but dimly, and the test light or fan would also be dim/slow as they would be getting ground through those other light fixtures.

        That spark could have been a big deal if there was propane leaking.

        Good luck with the rest of your swap over.


        Posted: 5:58 PM – Nov 03, 2013
        meme427
        I would be very interested in how this comes out. We have had problems in our 2010 carriage cari lite model 37mstr with the electrical system. The gfi breaker went bad and when we replace it it keeps flipping. We can put a new one and it breaks. Our furnace will not come on at all, it is controlled thru the remote for the ac. All of our kitchen area lights are out.

        Posted: 6:54 PM – Nov 03, 2013
        B.W.
        JohnD222 wrote:That spark could have been a big deal if there was propane leaking.

        Actually, I capped off the propane line to the fridge the day before and made sure there were no leaks. I made sure I had the propane bottle and elec. to the fridge turned off and made sure the rear compartment of the fridge was clear of any residual propane before attempting to cap off the line. This really has me stumped. Will test the existing dangling wires with a light tester in the morning.

        Good advise, Thanks
        B.W.


        Posted: 7:11 PM – Nov 03, 2013
        A&J’s Carrilite
        Test the wires to see if there is any current flowing.
        On our 2009, some of the “Fuses” are actually resetable breakers. Don’t know if this was continued, or something that the first owner did.
        If you grounded a hot wire against the copper, a fuse or breaker tripped somewhere. For 12 volt to provide power, it has to be grounded, same as 120volt.

        Posted: 7:43 AM – Nov 04, 2013
        Alohakai
        Check the fuse at the inverter , if not blowed check the inverter it self hope this helps

        Posted: 8:07 AM – Nov 04, 2013
        falconhunter
        BW

        Not sure how you are testing the fuses but if your using the old eyeball method I suggest you use a cheap light tester and check if you have 12 volts coming in and out of all your fuses. You can pick up a cheap tester at Walmart for under 5.00.

        If you don’t have 12 volts coming in to a particular fuse then there is another fuse or a resettable fuse somewhere.

        Good luck. Electrical issues can be a real pain.

        B.W.Gentry
        Owner/Admin
        2007 Carri-Lite XTRM5
        Breckenridge, TX

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