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- CLOC-AdminI am thinking about putting disc brakes on my Cameo. I know some of you have replaced your electric drum brakes with discs and am looking for some input as to the difficulty of doing this myself and some ideas for vendors and costs for the parts. You are all the greatest.
John
Posted: 7:06 AM – Feb 26, 2014I will get some information for you tomorrow evening and a contact for a distributor that was awesome to work with. We did a Kodak change over last year to our Cameo. I highly recommend it. The tedious part was running the steel tubing but still manageable. I will send you a private message tomorrow evening. PhillipPosted: 8:07 AM – Feb 26, 2014Phillip, please post the source as I suspect there are other members interested in the conversion. Me being one of them.Posted: 4:30 PM – Feb 26, 2014I replaced mine 2 years ago. I think it is definitely worth it.
Mor-ryde sells a kit that uses Kodiak hubs and calipers, and the Carlysle high pressure hydraulic brake pump.
Comes with everything included.I’d give Mor-ryde a call.
Sheff.
Posted: 11:13 PM – Feb 26, 2014We are very happy with our Kodiak disc brakes but we didn’t install them ourselves. We had it done at Mor/Ryde at least 10 years. Much more satisfied than when we had the Dexter Axles.
It is not a hard job if you are well mechanically inclined as it is all nut and bolt work. That said you do need to make sure you have the correct axles. In your Carriage book it should state what axle rating you have. Contact Kodiak and give them that info and they can tell you if you have the correct axles for Kodiak brakes or if you also need to replace the axles. Hugs, DiPosted: 4:02 PM – Feb 27, 2014Actually, when we had ours done, Mor-ryde said of the three possible axles we could have, standard, EZ lube and Never-lube, only 2 of them could be fitted with disks. Unfortunately, I can’t be positive which one was the odd man out. I think it was Never-lube that couldn’t be fitted with disks.Sheff
Posted: 8:36 PM – Feb 27, 2014I’m including the contact info so the Kodiak rep that I went through when I did the conversion. I can’t say enough good about his knowledge and customer service. He has been in the business for years and knows his stuff. He was aware of a period where Carriage used some 7200lb axles and could not do a retro fit on that axle. However, he told me that since he works with Dexter, as well, that he was able to help get a better price for the customer.
When you call Bill, if you have the axle numbers off of your axles (the number on the white sticker on the actual axle) he can tell you exactly what you need and have everything deliver right to your door including brake lines, bearings, Titan pump. He also favors the Titan pump over any brand and has statistic to tell you why.
Here is his contact info:Bill Halasyn
(813) 363-4685
oug121@mindspring.com
http://www.stopyourtrailer.com/index.htmlPhillip
Posted: 9:53 PM – Feb 27, 2014jdpm wrote:He also favors the Titan pump over any brand and has statistic to tell you why.
Her is his contact info:Bill Halasyn
(813) 363-4685
oug121@mindspring.comPhillip
If I’d known I had options, I would have done some research, but I didn’t. I hope I didn’t get one of the bad ones.
10,000 miles out to the west coast and back, and 1.5 years later and no regrets so far.Sheff
Posted: 7:39 AM – Feb 28, 2014jdpm wrote:Bill Halasyn
(813) 363-4685
oug121@mindspring.com
http://www.stopyourtrailer.com/index.html
PhillipAdded this Contact information into our Vendors & Parts Suppliers List.
B.W.
Posted: 5:35 PM – Feb 28, 2014jdpm wrote:I’m including the contact info so the Kodiak rep that I went through when I did the conversion. I can’t say enough good about his knowledge and customer service. He has been in the business for years and knows his stuff. He was aware of a period where Carriage used some 7200lb axles and could not do a retro fit on that axle. However, he told me that since he works with Dexter, as well, that he was able to help get a better price for the customer.
When you call Bill, if you have the axle numbers off of your axles (the number on the white sticker on the actual axle) he can tell you exactly what you need and have everything deliver right to your door including brake lines, bearings, Titan pump. He also favors the Titan pump over any brand and has statistic to tell you why.
Here is his contact info:Bill Halasyn
(813) 363-4685
oug121@mindspring.com
http://www.stopyourtrailer.com/index.htmlPhillip
Thanks for the info Phillip. I have already requested a quote from their website. I also liked the videos that were available there also.
Posted: 9:53 AM – Mar 11, 2014Just had Kodiak disc brakes and Titan actuator installed on my 2008 Cameo F32SB2 and cannot believe the difference. Installed Tekonsha P3 controller in truck. Definite improvement in stopping, in fact will lock all 4 wheels if controller power setting is too high. Takes some fine tuning to get optimal braking (just before wheel lockup) on level dry pavement. My voltage setting must be lowered 1 volt on wet level pavement to prevent lockup. I was going to install the system myself but the dealer said he would do it for $440.00 labor, so he got the job.
I believe the system is money well spent. I will have peace of mind in the mountains.Posted: 11:52 PM – Mar 11, 2014Congrats on your Kodiak disc brakes. We have had ours on our Carriage for about 14 years and feel the same way. We too have the Titan actuator.
Can’t speak for the Tekonsha as we had and still have our Max Brake Controller but Dutch wants to give the integrated controller on our 2014 Dodge a fair shake 1st Hugs, Dichuck wrote:Just had Kodiak disc brakes and Titan actuator installed on my 2008 Cameo F32SB2 and cannot believe the difference. Installed Tekonsha P3 controller in truck. Definite improvement in stopping, in fact will lock all 4 wheels if controller power setting is too high. Takes some fine tuning to get optimal braking (just before wheel lockup) on level dry pavement. My voltage setting must be lowered 1 volt on wet level pavement to prevent lockup. I was going to install the system myself but the dealer said he would do it for $440.00 labor, so he got the job.
I believe the system is money well spent. I will have peace of mind in the mountains.Posted: 9:30 AM – Mar 12, 2014We just took delivery of a new Lifestyle LS36FW with the factory installed Dexter disc brakes with Dexter actuator. The brakes are strong and will lock-up. However, the lag time as awful. I am going to bleed them this weekend to make sure it was done at the factory correctly. Plus, when I installed the Kodiak, the manual said to bleed again after xx many miles. Lag time on that system was minimal.
From my previous experience with the Titan actuator and info from Bill at Kodiak, the Titan is supposed to have the least lag time.
In addition, under suggestion from Kodiak, the feed line from the pump back to the brakes is 1/4 inch then teeing-off to 3/16 to each caliper. I noticed our Lifestyle has 3/16 for ALL lines.
If bleeding the system does not help, I may have to change the main line to 1/4 inch. PhillipPosted: 10:37 AM – Mar 12, 2014Hi Philip
it could be 3 things. Or there is a delay created by the GM onboard controller until it send a signal to the Dexter Actuator. We have to remember that Dexter said that their Actuator
is not compatible with GM onboard brake controller. Or it takes time to the Dexter actuator to build the pressure to move the brake pad. Or, like you said, maybe the line is
too small. From what I have read, many people complain about that lag time on actuator like Carlisle, Dexter and BrakeRite but they get used to.
First, you might check if the signal is send immediately to the actuator when you depress the brake pedal. that would be the easiest.
As soon as I get my new Lifestyle with the Hydraulic brakes, my dealer said since the company don’t want to install anything else than Dexter
He will change it for a Carlisle or a BrakeRite during the PDI
RobertPosted: 11:11 AM – Mar 12, 2014I have the dexter disc brakes with the Carlisle actuator and had a long lag time with the Dodge IBC. I switched over and installed a Maxbrake and the difference was amazing. The brakes have zero lag time now. I don’t think they sell the Maxbrake any more and it ties directly into the brake line at the truck master cylinder. Best brake controller I ever had.Chip
Posted: 5:43 PM – Mar 19, 2014falconhunter wrote:I have the dexter disc brakes with the Carlisle actuator and had a long lag time with the Dodge IBC. I switched over and installed a Maxbrake and the difference was amazing. The brakes have zero lag time now. I don’t think they sell the Maxbrake any more and it ties directly into the brake line at the truck master cylinder. Best brake controller I ever had.Chip
I heard great things about the MaxBrake. Shame its not made any longer. I wonder why. At any rate, we bleed the brakes last weekend. That was a royal PIA compared to the Kodiaks on the old Cameo. The tire has to be removed to get to the bleeder screw/valve and then the bleeder valve is on top of the caliper. So you have to be careful you don’t get fluid on the rotors or pads. We went around and bleed each one twice. I will see if it made any difference tomorrow when we take the beast out for its maiden weekend shake down trip to Ft. Clinch State Park, FL. Phillip
Posted: 6:33 PM – Mar 23, 2014Well, bleeding the brakes did the trick. The lag time is almost nil now. The brakes are very strong and the lag time is just about nil compared to what it was like before. So my in cab-controller is working fine with the Carlisle interface. PhillipB.W.Gentry
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