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CLOC-AdminAt the park we are in for the night, we couldn’t use the 50amp service. Here’s the run down..Plugged in, looked in the door- microwave is not on. Went back to the post and reset the breaker, it wasn’t kicked. Went in and loked at the EMS- Progressive- and it was blank.
Went back out and switched to 30 amp. Everything on but no codes on the EMS display.
Had the park repair man check the post, breaker, recepticle, my cord and he “said” everything was OK. I got my meter and everything checked out.. 120 on each leg, 240 combined, No current when checking neutral to ground, etc. Any ideas?
I read somewhere recently about an open nuetral or ground issue that could not be diagnosed using a meter but can’t remember what it was.
Power has been fine until today.Posted: 8:53 PM – Nov 14, 2013Odd situation. I have only ever had a situation where power went out. It turner out to be from the power cord not being turned fully to the locked position where it attaches to the RV. I can only hope this could be your situation. Otherwise, best of luck and please let us know the outcome. PhillipPosted: 8:58 PM – Nov 14, 2013Did a little digging since the first post. It should be an “Open Neutral” according to the ems directions.Posted: 9:07 PM – Nov 14, 2013We had a similar situation, and it turned out to be a bad GFI Breaker. It fried our microwave.Posted: 10:42 PM – Nov 14, 2013B.W. wrote:We had a similar situation, and it turned out to be a bad GFI Breaker. It fried our microwave.That happen to our rig when it was brand new. Fried the micro and the ceiling fan. Both were replaced in warranty. Electrical can be very frustrating at times….and it is never convenient! Phillip
Posted: 4:28 AM – Nov 15, 2013Presume you mean the GFI breaker in the panel of the RV, and not one in the kitchen wall or the RV Park panel. Is that correct? Did either of you get an explaination of the failure?Posted: 6:56 AM – Nov 15, 2013Comeupwithsomething wrote:Presume you mean the GFI breaker in the panel of the RV, and not one in the kitchen wall or the RV Park panel. Is that correct? Did either of you get an explaination of the failure?No, sorry we didn’t but I do know it was the outlet in the basement beside the basement TV antenna jack. Phillip
Posted: 7:41 AM – Nov 15, 2013Our trailer is currently in the shop for that very same issue. We plugged into a power pole at a park we frequent and immediately our GFI breaker in the panel tripped and the micro/convection oven fried and we have one circuit completely out.
We had the park electrician bring his equipment and check the post, our cable, etc. Everything checked out OK. However, the GFI breaker would not reset. We then had a mobile RV service come out and he checked everything again and was unable to locate the problem. So…into the shop it goes. This is the second time the GFI breaker, (or something), has done this to us.Posted: 8:05 AM – Nov 15, 2013Comeupwithsomething wrote:Presume you mean the GFI breaker in the panel of the RV, and not one in the kitchen wall or the RV Park panel. Is that correct? Did either of you get an explaination of the failure?Yes, it was the main GFI breaker in the breaker panel. Ours happened exactly as explained by theharveys.
B.W.Posted: 4:29 PM – Nov 15, 2013BW, TheHarveys, Phillip, A&J and others that may have experienced this,I can understand items that are plugged into the GFI circuit (kitchen outlets, probably the frig that is exposed to outside air vents where rain could get to it, bath outlet, outside outlet and even the TV power in the basement where rain might get to it) being fried if the GFI blows itself apart for some reason, but the microwave is on its own circuit and I would think could not be impacted.
When it turned out to be a bad GFI in the main panel, had it popped on occasion previously? In hindsight, was there any other event that you might alert us to as to warning or something to be on the lookout for?
Thanks in advance,
Posted: 5:01 PM – Nov 15, 2013John,
I’m by no means an electrician (I did build our last house and did all the wiring myself, and that still doesn’t make me an electrician), and I try to stay clear of it. The way it was explained to me by the RV repair technician, was that when the GFI breaker went bad, somehow, it allowed current to flow back through the common wiring as a surge and hit the microwave. The breaker had never tripped prior, and this happened the instant we plugged into the power pedestal at a fairly new RV park in Amarillo, TX. They put in a new GFI breaker, and a new microwave (Good Sams Extended Warranty) and we haven’t had a problem since.B.W.
Posted: 8:10 PM – Nov 15, 2013I do not remember our breaker having any issue prior to the recent event. We have had the breaker to the bedroom air conditioner pop on occasion. There is still power to the microwave outlet. So whatever happened did not hurt the outlet…just the convection/microwave oven.Posted: 9:29 PM – Nov 15, 2013The lower bearing in the Carrier ac may be trying to seize up. If you pop the 4 screws holding the cowling down and, with the breaker off!, try to spin the big black fan, does it spin freely? If no, the $8.00 bearing will quit soon.theharveys wrote:I do not remember our breaker having any issue prior to the recent event. We have had the breaker to the bedroom air conditioner pop on occasion. There is still power to the microwave outlet. So whatever happened did not hurt the outlet…just the convection/microwave oven.Posted: 9:11 AM – Nov 16, 2013So everyone is saying that the campground power pedstal had a bad GFI outlet? Everywhere else we have been has been ok. No codes on the EMS- Progressive Industries-, until then.
– Open Neutral Protection:If AC power has an open neutral condition, the display will not light, and the EMS will not allow power to the RV.
Thats what happened to us.
Currently at Summit Resort near New Braunfels TXPosted: 4:17 PM – Nov 16, 2013A&J’s Carrilite wrote:So everyone is saying that the campground power pedestal had a bad GFI outlet?Our’s was the GFI breaker in the breaker panel in the RV, not the power pedestal.
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